Saturday, May 10, 2014

When Einstein met Tagore


The text I wish to make you known play exciting dialogue in deeply philosophical , in which the two scholars debate the existence of God or nature of Truth.
Perhaps this dialogue reflects symbolically, gap, and deck The link that exists between Western thinking - able to produce outstanding scientific revolution , though encased in a limiting design on the human and divine ; and Eastern thought , rooted in a philosophy of " All That Is " by which human existence is the blessing of living in agreement and by integrating Divinity , not independent of it .
It is no secret that Albert Einstein was not only one of the greatest scientists of the world but also a very anchored in religion , but a religion of European type that sees divinity as a force independent of man ... " Do you believe in Divine as isolated from the world ? " , challenges Einstein Tagore. Paradoxically, scientists nowadays seems to contradict Einstein , giving justice to Tagore .
Turn this fascinating insight that two great thinkers debate on "Truth" and the human essence.

Einstein: Do you believe in Divine as isolated from the world?
Tagore:   Not isolated. Infinity Man staff understand the universe. There is nothing that can not be subsumed human personality, and it shows that the universe is truly human truth
I took a scientific fact to explain this - Matter is composed of protons and electrons, with gaps between elements; but the matter seems solid. Similarly, humanity is composed of individuals, yet they are linked to the human relationships which unify humanity. The entire universe is in connection with us, in a similar manner, it is a human universe. I expressed this thought through art, literature and the religious consciousness of man.
Einstein: There are two views on the nature of the universe:
(1) People that drive addiction humanity.
(2) The world as a reality independent of the human factor.
Tagore: When our universe is in harmony with man, the eternal, that we know the truth, we feel that beauty.
Einstein : This is a purely human conception of the universe.
Tagore : There can be no other conception. This world is a human world - the scientific view of the world is all one man scientifically. There's a certain standard of motivation, pleasure , which gives us truth , the standard Eternal Man whose experiences are through our experience.
Einstein : This is a conception of the human being .

Tagore : Yes , an eternal entity . You have to fulfill the emotions and our activities . I made ​​the supreme man has individual limitations through our limitations . Science is concerned with that which has no limits for individuals ; is impersonal human world of truths. Religion realizes these truths and attach them our deepest needs ; Our individual consciousness of truth gains universal significance . Religion applies values ​​of truth and know the truth that good in harmony with Him .
Einstein : Truth, or Beauty is not independent of man ?
Tagore : No.
Einstein : If there would be any human being , the Apollo Belvedere no longer beautiful.                                                  
Tagore : No.
Einstein : I agree with this conception of beauty , but not about the truth .
Tagore : Why not ? Truth is known / done by humans.
Einstein : I can not prove that my opinion is good, but it is my religion .
Tagore: Beauty is perfect harmony that exists in the Universal Being ; Truth , perfect understanding of the Universal Mind . We individuals approach it through our mistakes and blunders , through our accumulated experience , through our conscience enlightened - as otherwise we may know the Truth ?
Einstein : I can not scientifically prove that truth can be conceived as truly independent of Humanity ; but I believe in it strongly . I , for instance, that the geometry Pythagorean theorem establishes something that is only roughly true, independent of human existence . In any case , if there is a reality independent of man , there is also a truth relative to this reality ; and at the same time generates a negation of the first negation of the latter.

Tagore : Truth , which is one with the Universal Being , must essentially be human , all we had realized individuals as truth can never be true - at least truth scientifically described and can be reached only through a logical process in other words , in a body of thought which is the human . According to Indian philosophy , there is Brahma , the Absolute Truth , which can not be conceived by the isolation of the individual mind and can be described in words, but can be through a complete fusion of the individual in infinity. But such a truth can not belong Science. True nature is apparently talking about - to speak, what appears to be true of the human mind and it is true and can be called maya , or illusion.
Einstein : So according to your conception , which can be conception Indiana , it is the illusion of the individual, but of humanity as a whole.
Tagore : The species also belong Unity humanity. Then , the whole human mind realizes the truth ; European Indiana minds meet in a common accomplishment .
Einstein : The word << species >> is used in German for all human beings , in fact monkeys and frogs would belong to the word.
Tagore : In science cross discipline eliminating the personal limitations of individual minds and thus reach the comprehension of truth that is in the minds of the universal man .
Einstein : The problem is if truth is independent of our consciousness .
Tagore : What we call truth lies in the rational harmony between the subjective and objective aspects of reality , both belonging to a man over- personal .
Einstein : Even in our daily life , we feel compelled to put in a reality independent of the human mind through the objects we use. We do this to connect the experiences of our senses in a reasonable way. For example , if nobody is in the house , though the mass remains where it is.
Tagore : Yes, it remains outside the individual mind , but not outside the universal mind . Table which I perceive is perceptible by the same consciousness that I possess .                                                           
Einstein : If no one in the house would be mass exist in the same way - but it is already illegitimate from your point of view - because we can not explain what it means that the table is there , independent of us.
Our view on the existence of natural truth independent of humanity can not be explained or demonstrated , but it is a belief that she can not deprive anyone - not even primitive beings . Truth assign an ultimate goal - human ; us is indispensable , the reality that is independent of our existence and our existence and our mind - although we can not say what it is.
Tagore : Science has shown that mass object is an appearance and so solid , that thing that the human mind perceives mass would not mind if there would be nothing . At the same time it must be admitted that the expression of physical reality as nothing more than a multitude of electrical forces in turning centers , while the bias of the human mind .
In no understanding of the Truth eternal conflict between universal human mind and the same limited individual mind. Perpetual process of reconciliation is carried in our science, in philosophy , in our ethics . In any case, if there was any truth absolutely unrelated to humanity, then for us it is absolutely a non -existence.
If it is difficult for us to imagine a mind that sequence is not happening not in space but in time as well as the sequence of notes in music. To such a mind, such a conception of reality is close musical reality in which Pythagorean geometry can not make any sense.
Einstein :  Truth, or Beauty is not independent of man ?
Tagore :     No.



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